Towers at The New Yorker

485 8TH Ave, New York City, NY 10001

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No title - expert review The Classic Place Hotel enjoys an excellent location on the important crossroadsof Asoke and New Petchburi Road, a short distance from the busy shopping and commercial areas of Asoke, Sukhumvit, Pratunam, Pleonchit and Rachadapisek. The Japanese Embassy is only 100 meters away. While the Bangkok Int... bootsnall.com No title - expert review Guests at this Midtown lodging spin through the revolving doors to be greeted by high ceilings and huge chandeliers. When the property opened with 1,000 rooms in 1929, it was the biggest hotel in the world. Today, it’s a luxurious landmark where tourists come to sleep and New Yorkers come to si... gayot.com No title - expert review Art deco style 40 story hotel All newly renovated Incredible views of Manhattan Skyline Closest hotel to Javits Convention Center, Macy's and Penn Station 3 blocks to Empire State Building and 5th Ave. Shopping Next to Madison Square Garden Tax rate is 13% plus $2.0... travel.away.com No title - expert review Very Popular Hotel in a Central Location. In the Heart of Midtown, Within Walking Distance of Major Sights. Restaurant Bar and 24 Hour Diner. 844 Comfortably Appointed Rooms. Family Plan: Up To 2 Adults and 1 Child (12 Years and Under) Sharing With Existing... gotrump.com No title - expert review The New Yorker hotel is centrally located in Midtown Manhattan. Just a stone's throw away from many of New York's main attractions. Located in the garment district, across from the hotel you have Madison Square Garden and Pennsylvania Station and a 5minute walk will take you to the world famous Macy... hotelconnect.co.uk No title - expert review Towers at the New Yorker Hotel, renowned for its warm, friendly staff and quiet ambiance, offers fully renovated suites in the Towers. The closest Hotel to the Javits Convention Center, our location provides easy access to area sights, sh... shdweb.com No title - expert review Art deco style 40 story hotel. Incredible views of Manhattan Skyline, Closest major hotel to Javits Convention Center, Macys and Penn Station. 3 blocks to Empire State Building and 5th Ave. Shopping. Next to... sidestep.com No title - expert review The Ramada New Yorker Hotel welcomes business and leisure travelers, corporate meetings and social events, association conference and tour groups. This New York City landmark hotel offers a tradition of hospitality for 75 years. Our 857 rooms and suites are a welcome retreat from the excitement of t... sidestep.com disappointed - user review I just came back form a business trip and was extremely disappointed with my hotel accommodations. The service was embarrassing front desk service was rude, kept me on hold for longer than 5 minutes, and disconnected me twice.I requested a hairdryer one night and one woman from housekeeping knocked ... newyork.citysearch.com No title - user review I stayed at the New Yorker in April 2002 during a short visit to New York ( from Denmark ) and i can highly recommen... newyork.citysearch.com Very Nice - user review Loved it! From check in to check out the staff was nothing but excellent. The room was small, but it's New York, all hotel rooms are. Very clean, well done, definetly stay there agai... newyork.citysearch.com Average place no surprises - user review Stayed there with a friend 2 years ago.Good hotel, very old but clean, big room, never had a need for the service, it was more in at midnight>sleep>out a 8 breakfast outside.The beds are ok, noisy if you don't like the city (I'm from ... newyork.citysearch.com One of the Best - user review This was the second time we stayed at the New Yorker, first time was great, but had no view. This time we were pleasantly surprised with a great view of the Empire State, and Madison Square Garden. The room was very clean, and the maid service was excellent. All staff are very polite and couteous. M... newyork.citysearch.com No View if you´re unlucky - user review We spent a week at the New Yorker in an excellent location. The only gripe I have is the view, which was of nothing but other rooms as we were put in an inside room, which was very disapointing for a hotel which sell... newyork.citysearch.com No title - user review okey place to stay if you get good pr... realtravel.com will not go to this hotel again - user review I had stayed in New Yorker Ramada hotel for 4 days. The over all experience was very bad and I would not like to go into this hotel again. The rooms are very small. Wi fi internet network never works (even in the rooms, which are supposed to be wi fi enabled). During stay, queries and complaints are... epinions.com Not so fast! - user review I need to jump in and say that my experience at The New Yorker was not bad at all. Yes, it was almost a year ago that I stayed there, and the joint may well have gone severely downhill since. But based on my one visit a year ago... epinions.com It´s not so bad - user review I was nervous to stay here after reading the previous reviews, but it turned out to not be bad at all. We were in a room with a king bed on the 36th floor, and though it wasn't the Ritz it was clean (my main priority in a hotel) and nicely sized for a hotel room in NYC. We had our 5 month old baby w... epinions.com Location Location Location! - user review I've seriously never seen a room this small before. Seriously. And there were two beds in it. Wow. It's an amazing accomplishment of human engineering, really that they got me, my best friend, and all of our stuff in... epinions.com Where to stay if on a REALLY tight budget - user review My sister and I were in New York for the 4th of July weekend and needed a relatively inexp... epinions.com Nightmare on 8th Avenue - user review Ok, so maybe it wasn't a total nightmare, the location was perfect, right across the street from Penn Station and Madison Square Garden. If you plan on coming to the city to attend an event at the Garden and only need a cheap ... epinions.com A Stay Not by Choice - user review Okay, my wife and I went to NYC in Nov. '01. We were going up from Philadelphia to see a concert at Madison Square Garden on a Friday night, and then her family was meeting us Saturday to see a show and stay until Sunday... epinions.com Great Location, Clean and Tidy :) - user review The New Yorker Hotel is clean and tidy it is under going some external and internal renovations but it is still a good place to stay we had'nt stayed there since 2000 but i'm glad we went back.The room we had was on the 33rd Floor and had great views of the Hudson river and the Upper West Side,there... epinions.com First and Last Stay at the New Yorker Ramada - user review The only redeeming quality about this hotel is the location. I traveled up to NY on business and decided on the hotel due to its proximity to Penn Station. I will also give it a nod towards the cheaper price. However, after stayi... epinions.com Smallest Rooms in NYC - user review This place has TINY rooms with no fridge and toilets that don't flush. The door to the room opens and it hits the bed. The bathroom door can't be open if someone is standing in the room at the same time, the other person must lay down on the bed if anyone needs to walk to the bathroom. There is no p... epinions.com Comfort with a great location! - user review This was my 4th time to New York and I got to say the New Yorker Hotel is by far the best hotel I've been in. Everyone there was very accommodating. The hotel has great amenities, excellent location and a great view( from ou... epinions.com Worth the price, worth the time. - user review Traveling to a big city is always anxious for me, especially when I have to pay out of my own pocket. I went to New York in January and stayed at the New Yorker Hotel and it turned out to be one of the better things on that trip. The price was what I can afford, reasonable for this kind of hotel. Bu... epinions.com Luckily I didn´t go to the New Yorker to sleep. - user review We may only have been in New York City from Friday p.m. until Monday a.m., but boy did we ... epinions.com good Central Location - user review A small, clean but older room is what you get. An air conditioner is hung in the window and steam heat is used to heat the room. The bathroom is clean but with older fixtures. The location is central with access to three major underground subway lines within two blocks and a block of Penn station wi... expedia.com Less Expensive hotel doesn’t meet expectations - user review Even thought my check in experience was horrible I can't blame them because of the late check in of 2:00AM. Once the morning came and I started my day, I noticed the hotel was quite bustiling. they had a lo tof stuff going on in their ballrooms, and conference rooms. Waring! The rooms are extra smal... expedia.com great location - user review great location is the the most important thing about this hotel. next to the Madison sq' garden. the hotel is very old. needs to renovate its carpets and rooms sooner then later! if you are not going to spend much ... expedia.com Clanking Heater All Night - user review Hotel was clean enough and staff friendly. Good location for theater district. Only problem was, pipes clanked all night and when we tried to phone to compain no one answered the phone. In AM the manager only offered to upgrade the room but we were leaving that day so this didn't compensate for the ... expedia.com Place to sleep near RR station. - user review I needed a place to sleep after arriving on a late arriving train and departing early in the morning. As expected, small room,bathroom,good hot water, TV , wake up call on time, bed comfortable, clean. Had no need for anything... expedia.com Very nice hotel - user review I really enjoyed my stay here. It was very convenient to Madison Square Garden. It was also within easy walking distance to the Empire State building 3 blocks and Time Square 8 blocks. There were several good places to eat within a couple of blocks. I will defenitely be back when they are done with ... expedia.com Been going for years - user review I stay in this hotel every year because it's affordable (for New York) and close to the convention center. But it's not perfect. The check in line is always long and the place is crowded. The rooms are not very modern but for just one person space is adequate. I hear they are renovating later this y... expedia.com Apalling hotel with free bed bugs - user review I stayed here on a business trip and it is truly awful. Despite being expensive, the hotel is very tired, rooms cramped and dirty, and the bathroom was antique. The wireless internet was useless, and staff unwilling to fix it it was a common gripe amongst other guests as well. Worst of all, I ended ... expedia.com not impressed - user review its a litle room the hotel has a good ubica... expedia.com Good Location one block from Penn Station - user review Just a couple of blocks from Macy's, Empire State bldg. Rooms are small and cramped, but t... expedia.com Good Location - user review Lobby was very nice. Hallways have appearance of old college dorms. Room and bath was clean but dated appearance. Location was perfect for us to shop, get to subway,etc. Traveler's tip on dining.Tick Tock Restuarant just off lobby had excelle... expedia.com Not Bad for the money - user review Much nicer than I expected it would ... expedia.com Perfect for the money and the location - user review My Husband and I had an excellent time in New York and mostly because the hotel was reasonably priced and in the perf... expedia.com Convenient location, small room - user review Not suggested for business travellers. Its good for tourists wanting to save some money, but the room I was in was too small. The exercise room was small for the ... expedia.com Disappointed - user review Room is not very clean and need lot of works to be called Hotel . I would call motel. Air conditioner is a noisy window type and sit right next to the bed. High speed internet is not working as it should. I need to call their customer service and wait for 15 min. for them to pick up my call and fix ... expedia.com Great location - user review The hotel had a great location near Madison Square Garden and The Empire State Building. The room was very small, but they cleaned it everyday and brought fresh towels. We did have a bit of trouble with the breakfast the internet claimed that a breakfast was included, but when we got there, they sai... expedia.com Its OK. - user review The hotel is near everything, its quite old and the rooms are small, but it is acceptable. Also it is the cheaper option that i found in the zone. Traveler's tip on local attractions.It is 2 blocks away of 5th a... expedia.com Just OK - user review The location is very good, but the hotel is very dated and needs sprucing up. For the price it's pro... expedia.com Hotel is going to be updated - user review The New Yorker Ramada was just what I needed for a quick trip to the city. The hotel will be completely renovated this year. The room was clean but very old. The staff was helpful. The hotel has a good location near Macy's and Madison Square Garden. I would consider returning to the New Yorker once ... expedia.com Could be great if...... - user review This hotel is undergoing badly needed renovations. Trims and wallpaper are missing from walls, carpets stained and worn, small uncomfortable rooms, old beat up furniture, wind whistling through air conditioners, and thin walls. It is, however, in a very convenient location for transportation, the co... expedia.com Bad Experience @ New Yorker Ramada Plaza - user review This hotel may not be a good class hotel but I had expected the staff to be polite and friendly. I was given a sulken face by the counter staff on the day of my check in, my first day in New York. There was totally no smile on her face and she was very rude until I showed her that I was not happy wi... expedia.com A Great Location Too Stay - user review This hotel was in a great location in new york i would stay their again with no problem, and the resturant in the hotel was twenty four hours and the... expedia.com ya just can’t beat it! - user review very convenient location, very nice and helpful staff, renovation is going but that did not cause any problems, i turned the shower on 1/2 to full and it about knocked me down loved it... Traveler's tip on saving a few bucks.we flew into Neward Airport a taxi is about $60 to downtown New York the be... expedia.com Great Location - user review We were there in a big storm. Close to MSG. It was clean and in process of renovations. We woul... expedia.com No title - user review A Great location, currently being refurbished. Excellent economy hotel now. Can walk to a huge numbe... mytravelguide.com No title - user review A tad run down, but great location, great price, great view. You don't go to NYC to spend time in your room. I consider this to be the best val... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Additional fees amounted to almost $25 per day. I would have liked to have had that disclosed... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Be prepared to party with college students! It is a make shift dorm for local universities. If you like, history stops by the lobby for interesting facts. Otherwise, everything about this place is poor, dirty and run down. I woul... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Better than expected. Staff makes you feel safe and comfortable. Convenient to everything including the subways. Very little complaints. Overall great experience. Had a great view and would defini... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Convenient location. Very small and dated rooms. Room not ready at 3:00 check in time. No cold water in shower, too pricey for what... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Excellent location, convenient transportation. When I made fuss he relented. The room he gave us had a bathroom door that didn't fit the frame (could not be closed), and m... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Good location and friendly staff. Lobby is very busy and a typical tourist hotel. Once you get up into the hotel the interior is very shabby and looks like something from a B movie horror thing!!! C... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Good location for a short st... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Good value for the mone... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Great location for New York City. New Yorker Hotel meets your needs small room, good shower, quiet. Not luxurious, but at NYC prices, it... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Great value for NYC. Large, clean rooms, great views and centrally l... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Hotel's location is fantastic for the price.24 hour diner attached to the hotel is top rate. Staff is very helpful a... mytravelguide.com No title - user review I asked for a room with two beds and only got one bed. It was a most uncomfortable night for the three of us, ages 56, 32 and 12. We had... mytravelguide.com No title - user review I could not believe that a hotel in mid town Manhattan could still be around in this poor of a condition. It has not been updated since the 60's or older. The rooms were tiny (when I say tiny I mean tiny 3 feet wider than the bed). There was mold on the grout in the sho... mytravelguide.com No title - user review I think there was something wrong with the heat system, I could not turn it off and it was very hot throughout the hotel. It was so small you could hardly turn around, had no amenities, horrible shower, and hard beds. There was construction, jack hammering going on right outside our window all morni... mytravelguide.com No title - user review I would go back agai... mytravelguide.com No title - user review I would never recommend this hotel to anyone for anything but the briefest of stays. This hotel leaves visitors with a bad image of New York. The facilities were inadequate. The doorman and bellmen refused to assist hotel guests in obtaining cabs or with their luggage. The rooms had no central air c... mytravelguide.com No title - user review If you are very short on funds, don't go to NYC, but if you will anyway, this hotel isn't too bad. At least the windows open, so you can air out your room while you hit the town. Quarters are tight, so be very close friends with whoever you go with. A very friendly and efficient doorman will let you... mytravelguide.com No title - user review It is in a crowded location. The manager was friendly. However, there is no divider between the shower and rest of the bathroom floor it is all concreted, the walls are a... mytravelguide.com No title - user review It was an awful hotel. I would never stay at this kind of hotel even if it were less than 100. I paid 166 for it and it was not worth .00 it was shabby, worn and in terrible condition. It was so hot that I had to run the a/c all night just to cool the room. Take this hotel off your list as a 2 star.... mytravelguide.com No title - user review its fine if u are staying for one night. Rooms are really tiny, but if you are going to be spending most of your time outside the room it... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Loved it! location was aweso... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Movie theatre across from hotel. Plenty of restaurants and in a great lo... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Older, deferred maintenance, service staff minimal and lacking professio... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Over all the hotel was good for the price. The rooms were small and the cleaning staff was not a... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Overall, an ok experience. Although very small, it was very clean and comfortable. Sheets were changed daily, bathroom was very clean. Shower pressure w... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Ramada Inn is a very well located hotel in Manhattan, near Macy's (34th St). The rooms are poorly decorated, with old furniture's. The rooms don't appear clean too. For the same category, I have been i... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Rooms are to small didn't feel I wanted to spend any time in the room since I was their on... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Rooms not available for early check in at noon. Found this to be very inconvenient being that our day was packed full of events and we would not get back to the hotel until very late at night. However, I do understand the hotel states ... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The hotel is in a great location. It is very old and the rooms are very small. It was clean and the bed was ... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The hotel is located in a good area for shopping and eating. The one restaurant the we utilized was pretty good except for the nachos. The staf... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The hotel is very moderately priced for family or economic travel. It is very convenient to pen station and the subways as well as Madison square garden. Very convenient to maces, the empire state building, and other shopping. The hotel is clean and the rooms are nice (nothing fancy yet comfortable)... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The hotel was in a the perfect location for site seeing but the room was not very clean. The room didn't have any bath towels, only hand towels and no way could it have accommodated 2 people in a room as you had to walk sideways to get from the bed to the door. Very small even by new York standards.... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The location is excellent because it is between Chelsea and Times square. Penn station is close and there are many small restaurants in the vicinity. The room is small and clean and does not include a refrigerator so that you have to get ice from another floor... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The location of the hotel is convenient to go out to the middle of Manhattan. But the room is too small and not... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The New Yorker (former Moonie headquarters) is nothing if not conveniently located for tourists interested in a fairly typical NYC tourist experience (i.e., Times Square, MSG, Macy's, etc.). But, the rooms are tiny and not particularly well kept (worn carpet, old fixtures, scratched furniture, etc.)... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The New Yorker /Ramada's location was pretty good very close to the blue line and within short range of others (and Penn station and the bus terminal are down the street). The staff was mainly friendly, though we were told to stand in a long line at checkout. Didn't do it just left the keys and walk... mytravelguide.com No title - user review The new Yorker is a hotel undergoing a major transformation. A lot of noise (hammering) is being generated during the day presumably in connection with the new air conditioning and heating system currently being installed. The hallways and elevator bays have largely been stripped of any decoration g... mytravelguide.com No title - user review This hotel is in a great location midtown Manhattan. My room was really small. It's a good but not great hotel but I would recommend it to anyone traveling to... mytravelguide.com No title - user review This hotel is like a trip back to the heyday of New York. It is no glitz but very charming. Room was spacious with a deep tub. All very clean. There is a laundry area and fitness room. There's a wonderful diner style restaurant adjacent to the hotel lobby that's open 24 hrs. for breakfast lunch and ... mytravelguide.com No title - user review This hotel is very much down at heel. room was very sh... mytravelguide.com No title - user review This hotel was great! The staff was wonderful and helpful. It was a nice place to stay for my first trip to New York... mytravelguide.com No title - user review This is a very classic old hotel. Our first room was awful, a clear view of a wall out the window. The rowel rock fell off in our room, it smelled funky. However, we moved to a beautiful room on an upper floor and were much more satisfied. This room had been renovated, had good water pressure and a ... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Very small and outdated. Not even an iron or hairdryer in room. Bathroom very small. Carpet dirty. Definitely does not need to be priced at $150.00/night!However it did it's purpose and gave... mytravelguide.com No title - user review When I arrived they claimed I did not have a reservation. Even after seeing it, it wasn't clear for about 20 minutes whether they would give me a room or not. Not at all friendly. Finally, they became friendlier when they assigned me a room, and gave me what they called a better room. The room was a... mytravelguide.com No title - user review While the rooms were in pretty poor condition hadn't seen a coat of paint in a while (they claimed they were remodeling), if you don't plan on spending time in your hotel room (and hopefully you don't if you're in NYC) this hotel's location is perfect right across from Penn station and near Broadway... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Wonderful people work this low budget hotel, if it were not for them I would... mytravelguide.com No title - user review Would have been a great experience, but they have terrible wireless there. I was there for business and the internet was vital for me, but was the worst internet service of any hotel Ive been to. Internet never worked in my room and phone tech support just said there were outages in the hotel. When ... mytravelguide.com Ramada Plaza New Yorker: Great Location ! - user review I CANT UNDERSTAND THE BAD REVIEWS ON THIS HOTEL, IVE STAYED TWICE AND THIS HOTEL IS FAB! THE HISTORY ATTACHED TO IT IS AMAZING, MOHAMMAD ALI STAYED HERE AFTER A DEFEAT AND LOCKED HIMSELF IN FOR 5 DAYS! CHARLIE PARKER PLAYED THERE, I THINK ANY BAD REVIEWS WOULD BE FROM PEOPLE WHO STAYED ON LOWER FLOO... virtualtourist.com Ramada Plaza New Yorker: Never Again - user review If you are looking for a hotel in a great location, look no further. The Ramada Plaza New Yorker hotel is close to Madison Square Garden, the Empire State Building, Macy's and even Times Square. Arriving: when you exit the subway the hotel is right around the corner. I've read alot of bad things abo... virtualtourist.com Ramada Plaza New Yorker: Need serious improvement - user review It's an old hotel, but the location is pretty good next to the Empire State building, Macy's shopping mall and Madison Square Gardens. The room is small, furniture old, the bathroom sink is weird.., but who cares so much to see once you are out. The lobby is quite interesting, nice chandeliers and c... virtualtourist.com Ramada Plaza New Yorker: Somewhere to crash out!!!!! - user review Ramada New Yorker Hotel, right in the heart of NYC opposite Madison Square Gardens and 5 mins walk from Pennsylvania Station. Very old hotel, not exactly new fittings in the room, but location was perfect for seeing NYC. Roy found that it was very affordable if you booked in advance over the interne... virtualtourist.com Ramada Plaza New Yorker: Right in the Heart of Manhattan - user review The New Yorker sounded, and still sounds, like the perfect hotel in New York. It has a good location, a good reputation and a good price. The hotel is 44 storeys tall, which makes it one of the bigger buildings around. So you're bound to have a great view of Manhattan. It's also a very clean hotel, ... virtualtourist.com NYC - user review This hotel was great for the location. The room was VERY small, but clean. The lobby is beautiful, and compared to the prices of other hotels in NYC, this ... travel.yahoo.com Excellent location, small rooms - user review My husband and I spent in this hotel a week last spring. It's location is excellent, you can reach all interesting places by feet or with tube which stops around the corner. ... travel.yahoo.com Lovely Hotel... - user review The Hotel New Yorker is a lovely hotel in a great location... right across the road from Madison Square Garden, Penn Street Station and just a couple of blocks from Macy's ... travel.yahoo.com Greasy and Gross - user review Even for a budget hotel, even for NY, this was greasy and shabby. Thin linens, frayed carpets and bedspreads. 1964 decor, never updated. Dirty, bad service, noisy. You pay for ... travel.yahoo.com Happy with the price - user review We were going to New York City on a budget and wanted to spend our money on sightseeing, shows and shopping, not a hotel. The New Yorker was a very good hotel at a great locatio... travel.yahoo.com Convenience was tops - user review The Hotel New Yorker is located on 34th Street and 8th Ave. This made it very accessable to shopping (Macy's); close to Madison Square Garden; and very close to the entrance to ... travel.yahoo.com Real Class! - user review The New Yorker Hotel was a great suprise. Not a huge value but value for money. Centrally located and customer service was excellent. Any niggles we did have were fixed right ... travel.yahoo.com Small & Icky - user review Let me get this out of the way. Yes, the location is Awesome! I had a reservation and called ahead to say we would be there after 11 pm. When we got there the room was not ready! ... travel.yahoo.com try to avoid - user review We stayed at The New Yorker due to the fact that it was the only hotel that appeared decent and fairly priced. I would have expected more for 250.00 a night. The room was very smal... travel.yahoo.com Okay for the Value - user review Pros- The Hotel is in a great location. The family and I were pleased with the short travel either by foot or taxi to the many visitor spots around the city. The price was okay..m... travel.yahoo.com very bad mattress - user review Checking in was no problem, receptionist was very friendly. However, our 2nd day there, I inquired about upgrade-to a queen bedroom, since our bed was a double and our package was a qu... travel.yahoo.com